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Post by hurstoldz on Jul 12, 2012 18:32:40 GMT -5
Ahhh cool, I only saw 1 1965 442 with a vinyl top and I thought he added it after the fact
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Post by hurstoldz on Jul 12, 2012 17:23:32 GMT -5
Did the 65 442 come with a vinyl top? Not sure I ever saw one
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Post by hurstoldz on Jul 11, 2012 15:37:26 GMT -5
ttt
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Post by hurstoldz on Jul 7, 2012 21:04:33 GMT -5
I am interested in a car and want to know if any of you Olds fans know of it?
Thank you
Vinny
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Post by hurstoldz on Jul 7, 2012 14:16:17 GMT -5
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Post by hurstoldz on Jul 7, 2012 14:12:05 GMT -5
He left today... had a wedding to attend
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Post by hurstoldz on Jul 7, 2012 13:54:53 GMT -5
I just left the show. No 65 442s. Only one Rallye 350. One club member told me it was because the show started on the 4 of July. True, that could be part of it too... Did you see my buddy Karl Sup's 69 H/O? 7/10 of a mile on it!!!!!
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Post by hurstoldz on Jul 7, 2012 10:35:31 GMT -5
My buddy trailered his just completed 1969 H/O to the nats, I asked him how many 1965 442's were there, I was shocked when he told me none!
Only 275 cars showed up, he said it was due to OCA political crap that many boycotted/chose not to be part of it because the venue was indoors....
this is why I hate clubs...
It was 101* outside in Des Moines and cool inside... go figure
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Post by hurstoldz on Jul 5, 2012 16:02:37 GMT -5
I called him a couple days ago, still above my available funds
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Post by hurstoldz on Jul 4, 2012 19:06:21 GMT -5
Nice car... not a big fan of the butternut.... Thank you
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Post by hurstoldz on Jul 3, 2012 23:50:37 GMT -5
I saw that this afternoon... would be nice if it was a finished car
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Post by hurstoldz on Jul 3, 2012 17:30:29 GMT -5
Hey all, I should be collecting payment on the sale of my 68H/O anyy day now.
I want to find a really nice 4speed car with a/c, anyone here know of any for sale?
Thank you!
Vinny
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Post by hurstoldz on Jun 29, 2012 21:50:30 GMT -5
In what sense? For your budget or price wise for the car itself? I think if it's a true 442 the price is right. I only have $15K to play with
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Post by hurstoldz on Jun 29, 2012 19:02:40 GMT -5
I know there are guys on this forum that know more than me about this tranny stuff but here is my 2c worth. The Super Turbine 300 is the correct term for the tranny we always call a Jetaway. The "Switch Pitch" setup that makes them run good with the 442's amounts to a second solenoid setup in the tranny that, when activated thru the switch in the throttle linkage, reroutes pressurized oil into the torque converter to alter the angle on the blades in the converter to , in essence, lower the gear ratio of the tranny. That is why even the lowly auto can have a pretty desent "out of the hole" action. Granted, nothing like popping the clutch on a 4-speed but better than your average auto. To see if you have a switch pitch, check the electrical connector coming out of the tranny. If there are two prongs(one for the SP solenoid and one for the "passing gear" solenoid) it is probably a switch pitch. The bad news is that some rebuilders don't understand these trannies and screw them up. If you have the correct throttle linkage with the electrical hookups in it and the two prongs coming out of the tranny, you at least have the makings of the correct setup. For function, turn the car off but leave the key in the "on" position; leaning over the fender in a quiet environment, work the throttle by hand and listen; you should be able to hear the two "clicks" of the solenoids as you actuate the throttle. Just my experience. There are several versions of the st300 for 65 66 67. The NJ (442 only) and some MK units got several upgrades, xtra clutch pack, completely different valve body, the run of the mill 300 energized the clutches solely with spring pressure, the beefed up version uses spring pressure and fluid pressure much like the power glide. All switch pitch olds a body cars have the switch on the throttle linkage, I think some buicks had the switch on the brake pedal to only switch the stator to high angle while the engine was at idle. The idea that listening for a second solenoid to determine if it`s for a 442 is not correct, ALL switch pitch transmissions "switch the pitch of the stator" via a solenoid !! A switch pitch electrical connector will have 2 spade connectors on the left side that form a "T", there are later model transmissions with two connectors side by side. Since the servo cover fits all st300`s the only sure fire way to tell if its heavy duty or not is to drop the pan. These transmissions built, and set up right are very strong. And you 4 speed guys might not like this, but for rear wheel control, and torque multiplication, hard to beat. Dumping the clutch, while fun to watch, doesn`t do much but put you up in smoke. There`s a lot to understand with these transmissions, simple once you get the basics, and are very strong if built correctly. DON`T LET ANYONE TELL YOU ANY DIFFERENT. When talking to a transmission re-builder always refer to these as st300, or super turbine 300, never jetaway. Find a independent shop where dad, or better yet, grand-dad still call the shots. There`s a fellow 50 miles from me that runs a large shop that cut his teeth on these.. I`ve visited him several times over the years to suck as much as possible out of him. Thank you! I remember that my first 65 442 had an animal passing gear, I would step down at 35 mph and start chirping rubber
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Post by hurstoldz on Jun 29, 2012 16:38:48 GMT -5
too rich for me...
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Post by hurstoldz on Jun 29, 2012 16:32:10 GMT -5
I know there are guys on this forum that know more than me about this tranny stuff but here is my 2c worth. The Super Turbine 300 is the correct term for the tranny we always call a Jetaway. The "Switch Pitch" setup that makes them run good with the 442's amounts to a second solenoid setup in the tranny that, when activated thru the switch in the throttle linkage, reroutes pressurized oil into the torque converter to alter the angle on the blades in the converter to , in essence, lower the gear ratio of the tranny. That is why even the lowly auto can have a pretty desent "out of the hole" action. Granted, nothing like popping the clutch on a 4-speed but better than your average auto. To see if you have a switch pitch, check the electrical connector coming out of the tranny. If there are two prongs(one for the SP solenoid and one for the "passing gear" solenoid) it is probably a switch pitch. The bad news is that some rebuilders don't understand these trannies and screw them up. If you have the correct throttle linkage with the electrical hookups in it and the two prongs coming out of the tranny, you at least have the makings of the correct setup. For function, turn the car off but leave the key in the "on" position; leaning over the fender in a quiet environment, work the throttle by hand and listen; you should be able to hear the two "clicks" of the solenoids as you actuate the throttle. Just my experience. OK, so you are saying that ONLY the 442 tranny was a switch pitch? ? now im confused
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Post by hurstoldz on Jun 29, 2012 14:53:23 GMT -5
For starters the transmission is correctly called a "super turbine 300" Jet a way was only used because of oldsmobiles fetish with rockets, and jets, and the like. The original jetaway was a dual coupling 4 speed, nothing like the st300. As far as the i.d. tags being riveted on, few had the tags. Most #`s were simply stamped on the servo cover.NJ for sure, and SOME MK`s had the same internals as the NJ`s with the exception of a few springs in the valve body that were not as stiff but can be upgraded. I remember in a previous post stating that these transmissions are nothing like the run of the mill 300`s. This what I want to know before I look at a car that might be automatic... I am sure over the years some of these cars had transmission shops do a simple swap for a run of the mill cutty transmission... So NJ is a must for a 442 unit....
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Post by hurstoldz on Jun 27, 2012 21:13:50 GMT -5
Is there anyway to tell if a Jetaway cam from a 442? I read here that the trans was beefed up more than the stock F85/cutlass
Thanks!
Vinny
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Post by hurstoldz on Jun 27, 2012 14:42:37 GMT -5
Please PM me prices... also are all the trim holes on the blue car welded in??? Thank you
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Post by hurstoldz on Jun 26, 2012 21:16:09 GMT -5
Heck Vinny, if you got anywhere near your asking price you could buy 2 sweet 65's and a decent parts car to keep the other two running! True, but I need to pay off $30K in debt first... leaves me about $12-15K
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