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Post by dolzinnig on Sept 1, 2009 1:17:47 GMT -5
Might not have mentioned it yet, but I rented a 1800 square foot warehouse in downtown LA a few months back with a friend to work on and store our projects. Well, all this space is getting me in trouble.
Last Sunday I was browsing around Craigslist. I was actually trying to find the '65 F-85 four door listed in Vancouver B.C., which has since been sold. My dad is close enough to have gone and picked that up. I needed the front radiator support parts (brackets that the lower radiator sits in) and I was going to see if the driveline was the same length. (I threw mine at about 70 on the freeway a few weeks back and it's got a slight kink now).
Anyhow, found a posting for a '65 Cutlass Holiday Coupe close by in LA. It had been posted for about an hour before I saw it. Within 30 minutes I was in the truck to go look at it.
No motor or trans. Guy told me that it originally came with a 400. Not sure about that yet but I'll try to run the numbers. He also said it was garaged for 25 years before being torn apart to start this project that never got finished. It does look like that may be the case.
It might have a limited slip in the rear but the brakes are hung up so it's hard to tell. It has the driveshaft I need and rear yoke to replace my busted yoke. If it's a limited slip I'll swap that out.
Very little rust. a little bit under the rear window rubbers. underneath the car looks very clean. the front end is off the car and the grille and inner fenderwells are missing. Hood and fenders are in decent shape.
Floor shift auto with a console and original shifter intact. havent been able to dig the console out to look at it. missing front seats but the rear seat, headliner and instrument cluster is in nice shape. (dash pad shot)...
It has all new bushings in the front suspension and steering components. Converted to front discs already. (missing the booster).
He wanted $900. Offered him $500 and we settled in the middle at $550.
Anyhow, thought it would be a good car to part out until I called my dad. About two minutes into that conversation he laid claim to whatever is left over after I take what I need. When I bought my 442, it gave him the '65 bug again. He's coming down from Seattle to pick it up in a couple weeks. haha. no longer a parts car.
I'll post some pictures soon.
-grant
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2009 3:17:05 GMT -5
I'll post some pictures soon. -grant Do that! BTW- any chance I could pick up the steering wheel if it's original? Is the air cleaner still there?  How 'bout the original bumper jack?  Ralph |
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Post by dolzinnig on Sept 1, 2009 9:43:41 GMT -5
hey Ralph,
unfortunately it doesn't have any of the three parts you mentioned, (unless the bumper jack is hidden under the piles of parts inside the trunk). I need all three of those items for my 442 also! It's not a 442 so the air cleaner wouldn't be correct anyhow. It had a K&N lid and element, which the guy kept for his other F-85.
-grant
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2009 1:35:09 GMT -5
hey Ralph, unfortunately it doesn't have any of the three parts you mentioned, (unless the bumper jack is hidden under the piles of parts inside the trunk). I need all three of those items for my 442 also! It's not a 442 so the air cleaner wouldn't be correct anyhow. It had a K&N lid and element, which the guy kept for his other F-85. -grant (SIGH!) Oh, well- it was worth a try!  Ralph |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2009 20:48:18 GMT -5
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Post by 442scotty on Sept 2, 2009 21:14:12 GMT -5
The car in vancouver is still available...I was going to buy it and went to get it....It was not as described...a real piece of junk...wouldnt run properly...rust holes everywhere ...Had a good dash pad thats about it...really pissed me off...Why do people color their descriptions? Do they think you will still buy it?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2009 3:23:08 GMT -5
THX for the heads up! Ralph |
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Post by dolzinnig on Sept 3, 2009 8:03:47 GMT -5
Are '64 steering wheels the same as a '65?
There is a guy local with a decent '64 wheel.
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Post by dolzinnig on Sept 3, 2009 8:07:41 GMT -5
The car in vancouver is still available...I was going to buy it and went to get it....It was not as described...a real piece of junk...wouldnt run properly...rust holes everywhere ...Had a good dash pad thats about it...really pissed me off...Why do people color their descriptions? Do they think you will still buy it? It's no longer on Craigslist. If I remember right, the post said minimal rust. Where was the rust? typical floor pans, quarters, etc? When my dad puts this Holiday Coupe together, he'll need inner fenderwells, grille, front core support, etc. |
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Post by RAM Z on Sept 3, 2009 10:11:35 GMT -5
Are '64 steering wheels the same as a '65? There is a guy local with a decent '64 wheel. Yep. |
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Post by 64b09 on Sept 3, 2009 12:20:26 GMT -5
the horn buttons are different to, 64's had the F-85 emblem
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Post by 442scotty on Sept 5, 2009 6:51:12 GMT -5
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It's no longer on Craigslist. If I remember right, the post said minimal rust. Where was the rust? typical floor pans, quarters, etc?
When my dad puts this Holiday Coupe together, he'll need inner fenderwells, grille, front core support, etc.[/quote] You can get some of the stuff you want from the car. Its back on craigslist as of yesterday. The important stuff to me, rust free fenders and 1/4s ...driveability was all BS so I didnt take it..I was going to drive it home...
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Post by BR[] on Sept 5, 2009 8:38:17 GMT -5
I have a pretty nice standard coupe steering wheel complete with nice horn button. First $100 takes it.
65 steering wheel (no horn parts, some cracks) $100
Air Cleaner (nice) complete with new 442 pie pan and new chrome hold down disk. $$$ make offer......... make a BIG offer! I need to buy an 82" TV......
If your interested, email me, I'll send pics
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Post by Big Mike on Sept 5, 2009 11:39:29 GMT -5
I have a pretty nice ..... Air Cleaner (nice) complete with new 442 pie pan and new chrome hold down disk. $$$ make offer......... make a BIG offer! So tell me, does it have the new pie plate that says; "Ultra High Compression"; or not and need the separate "Ultra High Compression" strip? I've been looking for a new pie plate that doesn't have the UHC on it, anyone know where to get one of those, or someone who makes one or two at a time? |
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Post by RAM Z on Sept 5, 2009 12:14:32 GMT -5
I have a pretty nice ..... Air Cleaner (nice) complete with new 442 pie pan and new chrome hold down disk. $$$ make offer......... make a BIG offer! So tell me, does it have the new pie plate that says; "Ultra High Compression"; or not and need the separate "Ultra High Compression" strip? I've been looking for a new pie plate that doesn't have the UHC on it, anyone know where to get one of those, or someone who makes one or two at a time? No one makes the 65 only big plate. If you get bored this winter you can make one. The new plates have a layer of clear on them. Some paint stripper and some careful wiping will remove the clear then you can remove the ULTRA HIGH COMPRESSION script and the use premium fuel script. Thats what I did. |
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Post by BR[] on Sept 5, 2009 12:55:30 GMT -5
None of the 65's and I mean NONE in my area ever had the ultra high compression sticker separate. We had quite a few in the area in the 60's and they all had the pie pan only with ultra high compression on it. sooooo ya got me.
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Post by Big Mike on Sept 5, 2009 17:43:11 GMT -5
No one makes the 65 only big plate. If you get bored this winter you can make one. The new plates have a layer of clear on them. Some paint stripper and some careful wiping will remove the clear then you can remove the ULTRA HIGH COMPRESSION script and the use premium fuel script. Thats what I did. Wow, you did all that by hand, even painting the premium fuel script? Damn, you are one talented fellow. I don't know if I could do that or not, but hey, it's worth a shot. Thanks for the info. I looked on your site, but I couldn't find a picture of the pie plate that showed your handiwork. Do you have one to share? |
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Post by Big Mike on Sept 5, 2009 17:46:00 GMT -5
None of the 65's and I mean NONE in my area ever had the ultra high compression sticker separate. We had quite a few in the area in the 60's and they all had the pie pan only with ultra high compression on it. sooooo ya got me. Don't know if it's a regional thing or not, but I'm pretty sure all the Fremont cars I've seen have the separate UHC strip and I've also seen a couple of Lansing cars that had the separate strip. We had a member of our Olds chapter that had 4 65’s and all but one had the strip. Maybe it's a early or late production run deal, not sure. |
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Post by RAM Z on Sept 5, 2009 19:12:03 GMT -5
No one makes the 65 only big plate. If you get bored this winter you can make one. The new plates have a layer of clear on them. Some paint stripper and some careful wiping will remove the clear then you can remove the ULTRA HIGH COMPRESSION script and the use premium fuel script. Thats what I did. Wow, you did all that by hand, even painting the premium fuel script? Damn, you are one talented fellow. I don't know if I could do that or not, but hey, it's worth a shot. Thanks for the info. I looked on your site, but I couldn't find a picture of the pie plate that showed your handiwork. Do you have one to share? Typo, I meant remove where it says use premium fuel. I just touched up some spots on it. I didnt repaint anything. Here is an original plate.  |
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Post by BR[] on Sept 5, 2009 22:07:50 GMT -5
I could have lived without the toes
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How 'bout the original bumper jack?
Ralph
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