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Post by denis on May 31, 2012 0:17:44 GMT -5
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Post by 442scotty on May 31, 2012 6:02:47 GMT -5
You wont need anything else...just bolt it right up to the firewall. The plate for the round motor comes off as you wont need it for this one.
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Post by denis on May 31, 2012 12:22:19 GMT -5
AAhhhh..Thanks .
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Post by denis on Jun 3, 2012 5:57:40 GMT -5
another problem is the wiring, anybody know how i must change the connecting points to fit the new motor?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2012 8:25:47 GMT -5
BR[] had an excellant download that explains it all. w29.boards.net/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=3376Not sure but looks like your going from a round 2spd. wiper/washer unit to a 2spd. no washer unit. These should get you going. Make sure you trace to insure wire placement 2spd w/washer (color codes may NOT be correct) 2spd. without washer
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2012 8:34:43 GMT -5
I borrowed this from locDoc, for those that like reading and think of the wiper motor circuit as "black magic"
Q - How is the windshield wiper motor wired ? How can the circuit be tested ?
A - Single speed wipers were base equipment on most early 60's GM vehicles. They have one (fused) power wire that is connected directly to the wiper motor. This wire is live whenever the ignition switch is on. A second wire connects the motor to the switch on the dash. When the wiper switch is turned on, it completes the circuit to ground (the dash). The single speed motor can be tested using the following procedure:
* Use a test light (or voltmeter) to check for power at the wiper motor. Do this with the ignition switch on (wiper switch can be on or off). No power at the motor is an indication of a bad fuse and/or wiring.
* Next, (with the ign switch still on) connect a jumper wire from the switch terminal on the motor to ground. That should cause the motor to run. If it doesn't then the motor is probably faulty.
* Finally, the wiper switch can be tested with an ohmmeter or continuity tester. Also make sure that paint or corrosion isn't keeping the switch housing from properly grounding to the dash.
Two speed wipers with washers were available as optional equipment on early 60's GM vehicles. They became standard equipment in 1965 or 1966. This system still uses the same basic wiring principles as the single speed wipers. There is still a power wire that feeds the wiper motor whenever the ignition switch is on. Except now there are three wires going to the switch. The switch grounds one wire for high speed operation. Two wires are grounded for low speed operation. The third wire grounds the washer solenoid to activate the washers. Note that many '75 and later vehicles used a small electric washer fluid pump mounted to the reservoir instead of the older wiper motor driven pump.
There are also 3 types of 2-speed wiper motors. One is a non-depressed park motor that is easily identified by its rectangular motor case. Another is a depressed park motor that has a round motor case attached to the gearbox at an angle. The third is a permanent magnet motor that has sort of a rounded 6-sided motor case. The diagram below illustrates the non-depressed park (rectangular case) motor. The washer has been omitted for clarity. The depressed park (round case) motor uses the same wiring concept except the terminals on the motor are arranged in a different order (3 Low, 2 Power, and 1 High). The permanent magnet motor (used primarily on 1978 & newer GM pick-up trucks) has separate terminals for the park switch and therefore uses a different wiring setup.
Testing the wiper motor independent of the switch: (in or out of the vehicle)
The depressed park and non-depressed park 2-speed wiper motors can be bench tested independent of the dash switch by making the following connections:
* Ground the wiper motor housing.
* Connect a jumper wire from a +12V source to the #2 (Power) terminal on the wiper motor. It's the bottom terminal on the rectangular motor or the middle terminal on the round motor.
* Connect a jumper wire from ground to the #1 (High) terminal on the wiper motor. It's the middle terminal on the rectangular motor or the bottom terminal on the round motor. This should operate the motor at high speed.
* Leaving the above connections in place, add an additional jumper wire between the #1 (High) and #3 (Low) terminal. #3 is the top terminal on both the rectangular and round motors. This should operate the motor at low speed.
* On the rectangular case motor, leave the jumper between terminals #1 and #3 but disconnect it from ground. That should cause the motor to run (at low speed) until it reaches its park position at which point it should stop.
* On the round case motor, leave terminal #3 grounded but unhook the ground jumper from terminal #1. That should cause the motor to run (at low speed) until it reaches its park position at which point it should stop.
If the motor operates normally in the above tests but not when installed on the vehicle then the probelm is most likely in the switch or maybe the wiring. Don't forget to check the fuse. The switch can be tested with an ohmmeter.
If the motor stops immediately when switched off (doesn't return to park position), first check the motor's ground strap. Since the motor is mounted on rubber cushions, it's grounded via a copper strap attached under one of the mounting screws. This is the ground for the park switch so the parking feature won't operate if the ground strap is missing, dirty, or corroded. If the ground strap checks out okay but the motor still doesn't go into park then the problem is most likely a worn out or dirty park switch. The park switch is located inside the motor's gearbox so some disassembly is required to check/clean the switch. I recommend consulting a good repair manual for the motor disassembly procedure.
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Post by denis on Jun 4, 2012 15:09:55 GMT -5
I will try....thanks
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Post by denis on Oct 14, 2012 12:06:23 GMT -5
Anyone know if i need the another CRANK ARM if i change from (65) round to rectangular (67)case motor ??
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Post by denis on Oct 21, 2012 14:10:00 GMT -5
Solution, if anyone ever.... : donĀ“t need another arm or linkage from other models,only drill a new bolting hole in the linkage for the stock arm...works great.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 21:16:54 GMT -5
It's an archaic post but it solved my problem of the wipers not stopping. Thanks to whomever did the work!!
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