Building a Trailer Queen

Run of the mill judges dont know squat about these cars. Most have never seen a 65 442.

What I can tell you is the experiences that I had at the last two OCA Nationals. 08 was my first time at a national event. OCA has a set of guidelines and rules, but the cars are judged by volunteers and the scoring is all over the place.

What they do check for are conditions of parts. How nice the paint is, the glass (is it foggy or scratched), chrome, interior, engine/trunk compartment. Wheels are tires are also checked.

In Dearborn the judges started with the cars closed, hood/trunk/windows, to check for fit and finish. Doors were opened and shut to see how nice they worked. In Pittsburgh the cars were open and only the hood operation was checked. At both events I was knocked for wrong trunk latch finish, last year it was the lower and this year it was the upper. And both were correct when they said they werent.

The judges dont know correct numbers and codes of every part. Obvious codes like heads and block should be checked. One thing I did get banged for was a new windshield, which has the Pilkington name on it and not LOF. But other than that not much else was looked at.


So from my experience the last two years the judges looked for condition and not correctness.

Here is a good discussion about judging etc.

classicoldsmobile.com/forums/general-discussion/14696-w36-stripes-seven-springs.html

FYI: I was contacted by the OCA and the 65 442 advisor and was asked to make a list of items that should be checked for correctness on the 65's. I would gather from this that there must have been a lot of complaints and that they are compiling a set of guide lines to be used at all future meets. Which is a good thing.......at least you'll know what they are looking for.

Pre printing list .......... $750.00________RamZ $950.00__________Bubba $0.00 cause he don't give a shit!

Soooooooooooooo I picked out everything I could think of that RamZ has wrong and brought it to their attention. Needless to say the list seemed to go on forever.

If it was this year's Nats, oh yeah, there was a boatload of complaints. From all the reports from the guys in our chapter, it was a real mess.

First of all the OCA has a completely different set of rules for judging. It is similar to other single make judging rules, but the OCA is different. The story Jasen told about the proper color of his trunk latch is a prime example. OCA will go nuts and deduct the hell out of a car for an improper color of part and most of the time (like 99%) the OCA judges has it wrong, it’s a real problem with the OCA. One of our guys that won best of class for his car was told by the judge that his wheel color was wrong. NO, the judge was wrong. The owner had to appeal the ruling and brought out his dealer brochure that showed his wheel color as a choice for his year car and he was backed up by the model year advisor.

Most judges are volunteer judges, the problem comes up when the head judge doesn't set the bar correctly and educates his volunteers. Jasen is correct, mostly judges are looking for proper condition as opposed to correctness for the car, but correctness will come into play at some time and at some meets, it really depends on the head judge and sanctioning body.

The 425's that were inserted in the 442 were their proper red color, without the chrome air cleaner, I do believe.

Nope, its correct.

I believe there are people who have had them since new, I think one is the owner of Rocket Racing in Wisconsin but if you want I can find that out for sure.

I Would love, and have to see, at least a scan of, the build sheet, window sticker or dealer order sheet. Somthing, anything that has the 425 listed in the original purchase information.
BUT, I want first dibs for my web site, before RamZ tries to hi-jack it. Don't let him see this post.

Simply to document it.........either way............ I am a seeker of the truth, justice and the American way.