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Post by miksan on Jun 21, 2009 14:55:23 GMT -5
Would this be good motor to put in to save my 400 ? It might be a W-34 ?
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Post by bubbasz1 on Jun 21, 2009 17:46:36 GMT -5
What year, what horse power.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2009 9:28:13 GMT -5
In the early 1970's I ran a 66 Tornado 425 bored to around 430 in a 64 Cutlass. Shift point 7,500 RPM (the motor had some serious machine work). Best 1/4 mile at 10.90 and 127 MPH. Track car only.
Never forget those rides.
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Post by miksan on Jun 22, 2009 12:03:30 GMT -5
It is a 1969 has C heads on it that about all I know right now.He says it turns over.Its out of the car that has been scraped.Is there a dist. number that goes with a W=34 ?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2009 12:13:03 GMT -5
w-34 was a 70 only motor. it would have had E heads i believe. regardless, a 68-69 toro 455 with C heads is a badass motor. more than likely a 390 horse 505 ft/lb motor. that is what i am currently building for mine. before i tore it down it was a stock motor with a mild street cam and it would smoke the tires off through 4th gear no problem with 3.55's. all of your existing stuff will swap right over to it from your 400 as well, less the square-bore 4gc carb.
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Post by miksan on Jun 22, 2009 12:33:16 GMT -5
Well this looks like the motor to get thanks.
miksan
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Post by bubbasz1 on Jun 23, 2009 10:54:30 GMT -5
My first 442 had a toro motor in it built, had a 433 12 bolt in it after I broke the bearing off the ring gear side of the posi unit in the 10 bolt. It was scary fast to about 95 MPH and that was about all it was good for.  |
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Post by miksan on Jun 23, 2009 12:03:46 GMT -5
Planing on leaving the 3.55 in it.My thinking its a pretty good deal for a motor of that hp and that ft/lb.It should be pretty long legged.
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Post by bubbasz1 on Jun 23, 2009 12:37:56 GMT -5
Oh yea, they will work fine, I had too much gear but at the time it seemed the right thing to do.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2009 13:21:42 GMT -5
yeah, that 455 motor wont rev in stock trim... the stock pistons weigh a ton and have a bad week spot. over revving will result in the ring land coming off and being left at the top of the cylinder. if you are re-building, a good cheap replacement piston is the trw speed pro 2323. they are forged and have a pump gas friendly 18cc dish with a stock type press in pin. they will handle nitrous too unfortunitely they are around the same weight as a stock one. i am going .030 over on mine with cat 4340 h-beam rods and kb 886 forged pistons with floating pins. that will shave quite a bit of weight off, i cant remember off hand how many grams, but it is a lot. more expensive though... make sure you take care of the oiling system on it. have a compitent machine shop that knows olds motors build it. |
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Post by bubbasz1 on Jun 23, 2009 19:58:34 GMT -5
Hey oldspeed. I don't think he's getting that carried away, although I could be wrong. Those olds pistons weigh a ton, if I remember correctly my diamonds I had made were like 121 grams lighter that the stock piston. That just seems ridicules to me, should wrap up nicely if I ever hear it run.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2009 6:47:11 GMT -5
i am just saying, if he wants to spin that thing, it is a necessity. those speedpros are a good bulletproof slug though, just heavy. if you dont mine not spinning past 5300-5500 then it's fine.
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Post by miksan on Jun 24, 2009 9:34:23 GMT -5
Yea you are right Glen, I'm not getting crazy about it but its nice to know. If I get tried of it Ha Ha.I have to get the car back together first than I can worry about the mods. Thanks
miksan
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Post by 1965f85 on Jun 28, 2009 14:55:46 GMT -5
Check to see if the Oil Fill Tube still has the two letter code sticker on it. If it's still there (unlikely), and readable, the two letter code will tell you what horse power it was, and as Bubbaz indicated, a 390hp engine it what it's likely to be...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2009 18:13:18 GMT -5
The W-34 Toronado debuted in 1968 and few were produced. The option continuted to the 1970 model year, when quite a few more were built.
Those engines had bigger oil pans, windage trays, etc. It would be a great motor to put in to save your 400. It may or may not have a specific distributor code, not sure about that one.
You can easily tell a factory Toro engine by the restrictive low rise intake though. I don't think anyone with out a Toro would intentionally put one of those on.
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