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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2014 16:22:18 GMT -5
I went to look at some 65 Cutlass parts today. The fellow wants to sell me a frame he says came from one of the three rag tops he wrecked. It's boxed, as expected, but also has the four holes on each bracket for the upper rear end control arms, like a 442. Also appears to be a solid, unspliced frame. Is this normal for a 65 Cutlass convertible?
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Post by oldstata on Jan 13, 2014 17:22:14 GMT -5
Dave I believe any four speed was the same frame not sure on convert tho
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Post by oldolds88 on Jan 13, 2014 19:49:44 GMT -5
i have a 65 post that was 3 on the tree,it also has the extra holes in the frame. could be any stick car has them?
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Post by BR[] on Jan 13, 2014 19:53:42 GMT -5
the heavy duty 442 and the vert frames are pretty much the same with the exception of numbers and a couple holes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2014 20:19:55 GMT -5
the heavy duty 442 and the vert frames are pretty much the same with the exception of numbers and a couple holes. Thanks to you all. Interesting to know. |
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Post by oldstata on Jan 13, 2014 20:36:30 GMT -5
Dave good to see you here if you haven't done it you should post some pics for these guys you have a nice 442 Fremont built ? Right
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2014 23:19:52 GMT -5
Dave good to see you here if you haven't done it you should post some pics for these guys you have a nice 442 Fremont built ? Right Hi Justin, I wouldn't say it's "nice", but it's interesting. If I get some time to downsize a picture, I'll post one. |
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Post by stan65cutlass on Jan 14, 2014 0:48:50 GMT -5
Dave I believe any four speed was the same frame not sure on convert tho odd, my car has a regular frame under it. oshawa built ? maybe.i guess i wont know untill i take it off the frame and compare vin# stampings  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2014 12:12:32 GMT -5
The hardtop cars, both Cutlass and 442 have the open C channel side frames. The hardtop 442 has the gussets,extra holes, and the continuous outside rail. See the pictures on Bro's site.
The convertible frames for the Cutlass and 442 are also different. The easiest way to spot a 442, without getting under the car to read frame numbers, is to feel for the 4 holes in the outer frame for the transmission mount (on the small flattened area the cross member sits for a hardtop frame). (The convertibles have the transmission platform welded inside the boxed frame.) If the 4 unused holes exist in the outer frame, then it is a Cutlass frame. No holes = 442. Bro is adding the pictures for this to his site.
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Post by RAM Z on Jan 15, 2014 13:50:21 GMT -5
The hardtop cars, both Cutlass and 442 have the open C channel side frames. The hardtop 442 has the gussets,extra holes, and the continuous outside rail. See the pictures on Bro's site. Um, no. The hardtop and sedan frames are exactly the same. There is not a hardtop frame. The standard A body frame is an open channel frame, used under hardtops, sedans and 4 doors. A bodies that came with a manual transmission, 3 or 4 speed, came with the so called 442 frame. Gussets, extra holes in the rear control arm mount, lip of rear crossmember, solid perimeter frame. Automatic and manual 442s used this frame also. And the 4 hole trick on the verts isnt a tell because Ive seen them with the holes under 442s www.flickr.com/photos/restoreamusclecar/8136608892/sizes/l/in/photostream/ |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2014 14:55:30 GMT -5
I was using the term "hardtop" as a non-convertible car, generic for all metal roof cars.
Was the car in the picture a 442 convertible? Not enough in the picture to tell, but typical of the Cutlass convertible.
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