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Post by RAM Z on Dec 8, 2012 21:38:31 GMT -5
New cylinders are 40 bucks at NPD. A kit is 8. Should I rebuild mine or buy new? Anyone rebuild theirs lately?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2012 22:00:34 GMT -5
I gave up rebuilding the cheap to replace parts.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2012 22:33:29 GMT -5
40 bucks for all four? If that's by the piece, it's too much. You can do better at your local parts store. Sometimes though, you have to wade through a few til' you get the ones with the internal boot on the rears.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2012 22:34:48 GMT -5
I gave up rebuilding the cheap to replace parts. "Cheap" is relevant. Obviously more money than time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2012 22:38:28 GMT -5
New cylinders are 40 bucks at NPD. A kit is 8. Should I rebuild mine or buy new? Anyone rebuild theirs lately? My preference, money aside,(although the savings is substantial) if there not pitted too bad, hone and kit them. Besides there`s the satisfaction factor.
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Post by BR[] on Dec 8, 2012 22:51:51 GMT -5
As long as the cylinders aren't severely pitted, what's the problem with rebuilding?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2012 9:17:30 GMT -5
Maybe I mis-understood the question. On the RockAuto web site I have purchased wheel cylinders for all 4 wheels with shipping for around $40, total. The repair kits are around $20 with shipping for all 4.
I have rebuilt may parts of all kinds, but when new is almost the same as the pieces to rebuild a part, I go new. Like Bro said, if the cylinders are not badly rusted, rebuild is easy. Just messy.
With the convertible body on the twirller, I have lots of choices for how to spend my 8-12 hours per week of toy time.
This week end I tore down the 400 engine. good news is it was rebuilt sometime with .030" overbore, and has almost no ring ridge. Then sat for a long time. One exhaust and one intake, separate cylinders, froze (rusted) in place. So the engine was running on 6 cylinders. Looks like the crankshaft will need to be turned. But overall will be a less costly rebuild.
I'll start a new thread on the rebuild with pictures.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2012 9:19:17 GMT -5
The last wheel cylinders (in April) were $9.00 a piece and they came in Raybestos boxes. I'm all for satisfaction, but, for $9.00, how much screwin' around ya wanna do?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2012 10:38:43 GMT -5
New cylinders are 40 bucks at NPD. A kit is 8. Should I rebuild mine or buy new? Anyone rebuild theirs lately? My preference, money aside,(although the savings is substantial) if there not pitted too bad, hone and kit them. Besides there`s the satisfaction factor. The last wheel cylinders (in April) were $9.00 a piece and they came in Raybestos boxes. I'm all for satisfaction, but, for $9.00, how much screwin' around ya wanna do? O.K., I`ll try this again ! " My preference, money aside" (even IF the savings are NOT substantial) My enjoyment comes from getting to the finished product, not much fun (for me) once it`s sitting there with a feather duster as my most used tool.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2012 10:47:35 GMT -5
Look what you started Z.
Now, if you would, if you decide to go "new" on the cylinders. Post some pics of them as you receive them from the postman, more pics as you unwrap them!
Does ANYBODY get my point here?
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Post by Big Mike on Dec 9, 2012 10:56:03 GMT -5
As long as the cylinders aren't severely pitted, what's the problem with rebuilding? I'm with Bro, if they are not pitted, rebuild them. Most of the time it's just the rubber that goes bad. A couple swipes with a hone, reassemble and install. It makes more sense to do it this way when doing a total rebuild like Jasen is because the car is disassembled and not going anywhere anyway. Now if your wheel cylinder blows out backing your ride out of the garage when you're setting off on a cruise with friends or your car club and time is of the essence, then ya, buy cheap replacement and role.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2012 10:57:05 GMT -5
The original question has merit. Lots of smaller parts are better, faster, and cheaper new. Allowing for labor input and time available.
What you do in the privacy of your home with a feather duster is, as of today, your choice. Tomorrow the govt may weight in if they fiqure out how to tax the feather duster use. LOL
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Post by RAM Z on Dec 9, 2012 11:07:25 GMT -5
I used brand new ones on my red car. The ones on it were toast and were replacements. The coupes are Delco Moraine, original factory units. I took them apart last night and they appear to be rebuildable. They are 1-1/16 bores, which are 40 bucks a piece at NPD. They are listed as 64 early style, which makes sense because the coupe is a 64 built car. The 2nd style, 1-1/8, are cheaper.
I guess a hone job and a kit will bring them back to life.
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Post by tp on Dec 9, 2012 11:40:59 GMT -5
i just spent a few bucks at N P D its nice to have them close by ( FYI the center drag links for a chevelle are the same for are cars ) and Jay i went with new ones
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2012 14:01:18 GMT -5
The original question has merit. Lots of smaller parts are better, faster, and cheaper new. Allowing for labor input and time available. What you do in the privacy of your home with a feather duster is, as of today, your choice. Tomorrow the govt may weight in if they fiqure out how to tax the feather duster use. LOL Glad to see this thread is staying " LOL " status. I like the feather duster touch ! And even though this thread is in the "technical" section, its a little twisty, turney in content, so I don`t see the harm in commenting on your "govt taxing my feather duster" Recently a person applied for a building permit for a new house. It was going to be 100 ft tall and 400 ft wide, with 9 gun turrets at various heights, and windows all over the place and a loud outside entertainment sound system. It would have parking for 200 cars, and I was going to paint it snot green with pink trim. The City Council told me; "Forget it...AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!" So I sent in the application again, but this time I called it a 'Mosque'. Work starts on Monday. I love this country. It's the Government I'm afraid of..
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Post by bubbasz1 on Dec 9, 2012 15:03:51 GMT -5
I used brand new ones on my red car. The ones on it were toast and were replacements. The coupes are Delco Moraine, original factory units. I took them apart last night and they appear to be rebuildable. They are 1-1/16 bores, which are 40 bucks a piece at NPD. They are listed as 64 early style, which makes sense because the coupe is a 64 built car. The 2nd style, 1-1/8, are cheaper. I guess a hone job and a kit will bring them back to life. I've really don't have had a love affair for NPD, especially for items you can get at any parts house. Wagner 1 1/16 $21.00 at rock auto (fronts) Wagner rears, 15/16 bore, $8.00 each All I had to do was give them a wipe with thinner and paint, just way too easy.
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Post by RAM Z on Dec 9, 2012 15:09:33 GMT -5
Im pretty sure they were Wagners at NPD. Nice thing is you can get them in your hand that day instead of waiting on a special order. Bad thing is the mark up.
I just got back from there, picked up the front lower ball joints and the A arm bushings.
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