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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 11:48:28 GMT -5
I was throwing the idea around at putting some jb weld on the cracks in the water jackets???. This isn't something I would normally do but I'm on an extremely tight wife budget for my motor and have already went over it by 2grand. What do you guys think?I`ve got one more thing to say and then I`m going to but out From the get go Xtremejr`s concern was repairing the block or not, and if repair was possible, how. I gave my recomendations on repairs I felt comfortable with. Obviously, repairs of this nature are a crap shoot. IF the cracks were in a high stress area, I too would recomend replacement. Some folks fail to realise there are those among us that are under tight budget restraints. I`ve been there (several times) The easy answere to anything is to replace with a known good piece. So, in a nut shell. If your comfortable doing a repair, with the understanding it`s chancy, go for it. If not, find a good block, have it checked, done deal.. I would NEVER have suggested a repair if I had not done this several times in the past with success.
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Post by Xtremejr on Sept 15, 2014 16:47:49 GMT -5
I emailed the Guy in Bainbridge PA, waiting on a reply. Is anyone in that area??
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Post by oldstata on Sept 15, 2014 19:41:46 GMT -5
What does your machine shop suggest can the valley The crack and weld fill them and deck/ machine where needed ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 20:41:01 GMT -5
O.K. I said I was out of this, BUT, this is a whole different deal. That block on craigslist is missing a main cap ! Your aware I`m sure, you just can`t go stickin any ol main cap on there and call it a day !! Talk to your machinist, see if he`s equipped to line bore/hone an orphan cap to a block. Not cheap. Now I`m done
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Post by boba65442 on Sept 15, 2014 20:53:54 GMT -5
Yes that is important, a donor cap needs to matched and machines and may be hard to acquire. So hopefully the guy can find it or if you want to take a chance offer less to buy the motor. I might be able to get a main cap from a friend who has a cracked block. Again your machinist should advise.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 21:37:57 GMT -5
All of these engines were individually machined, like snow flakes ! Finding a donor would be easy, finding one close enough to machine without throwing your centerline off, not so much. The guys selling a door stop. Unless you`ve got really deep pockets
O.K., so now I`m really done, unless something more bizarre comes up
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Post by shane on Sept 16, 2014 5:45:57 GMT -5
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Post by Xtremejr on Sept 16, 2014 15:20:28 GMT -5
Yeah I had noticed that. Im actually going to try and locate a 455 block locally, machinist said everything will bolt right up. Does that mean I can still use my crank, heads, intake, exhaust manifolds, etc etc?? Deep Pockets I Don't Have, Small Pockets With Many Holes, I do have.
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Post by shane on Sept 16, 2014 15:54:43 GMT -5
Yeah I had noticed that. Im actually going to try and locate a 455 block locally, machinist said everything will bolt right up. Does that mean I can still use my crank, heads, intake, exhaust manifolds, etc etc?? Deep Pockets I Don't Have, Small Pockets With Many Holes, I do have.why?? you can pick up a running 455 cheap , why put 400 parts in a 455. This is the reason why 68 and 69 442s were dogs. 400s in a 455 block. I think I would be looking for a 425 block if your going that route.
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Post by oldstata on Sept 16, 2014 18:04:54 GMT -5
I know you will need to do work on the a heads to get the push rods to line up I believe or at least this is what I was told .
I agree find a running 425/455 slam it in there keep the block just cause and run with it
Also how much work was do e before they found the cracks ? I had my heads and block checked first I know I have a good block and heads before I put one cent into anything else.
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Post by 64b09 on Sept 17, 2014 12:44:01 GMT -5
Yeah I had noticed that. Im actually going to try and locate a 455 block locally, machinist said everything will bolt right up. Does that mean I can still use my crank, heads, intake, exhaust manifolds, etc etc?? Deep Pockets I Don't Have, Small Pockets With Many Holes, I do have.why?? you can pick up a running 455 cheap , why put 400 parts in a 455. This is the reason why 68 and 69 442s were dogs. 400s in a 455 block. I think I would be looking for a 425 block if your going that route. I believe you have it backwards, I think it was a 455 crank with the smaller bore block. Putting a 400 crank in a 455 block will get you a 425 if I remember correctly.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 15:43:27 GMT -5
why?? you can pick up a running 455 cheap , why put 400 parts in a 455. This is the reason why 68 and 69 442s were dogs. 400s in a 455 block. I think I would be looking for a 425 block if your going that route. I believe you have it backwards, I think it was a 455 crank with the smaller bore block. Putting a 400 crank in a 455 block will get you a 425 if I remember correctly.A 455 block will need 400/425 crank, 400/425 7 in. rods, 425 pistons But why, either keep it a 455, find a 425 45 degree block, or another 400. Notice I kept the value @ Cheapest, not so cheap, really not cheap
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Post by shane on Sept 17, 2014 17:50:29 GMT -5
I believe you have it backwards, I think it was a 455 crank with the smaller bore block. Putting a 400 crank in a 455 block will get you a 425 if I remember correctly.A 455 block will need 400/425 crank, 400/425 7 in. rods, 425 pistons But why, either keep it a 455, find a 425 45 degree block, or another 400. Notice I kept the value @ Cheapest, not so cheap, really not cheapMy point exactly , I've seen running 455s on craigslist going between $500 and $800.
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Post by shane on Sept 17, 2014 18:00:34 GMT -5
why?? you can pick up a running 455 cheap , why put 400 parts in a 455. This is the reason why 68 and 69 442s were dogs. 400s in a 455 block. I think I would be looking for a 425 block if your going that route. I believe you have it backwards, I think it was a 455 crank with the smaller bore block. Putting a 400 crank in a 455 block will get you a 425 if I remember correctly. Not me , his machine shop has it backwards . They were telling him he could use his 400 parts in a 455. I would never recommend that. Plans for my engine are 455 internals in my 400
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Post by Xtremejr on Sept 17, 2014 18:07:33 GMT -5
Yes shane you are correct, my 400 parts in a 455 block.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 18:13:46 GMT -5
Yes shane you are correct, my 400 parts in a 455 block. You still need pistons, cant use your 400 pistons
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Post by Xtremejr on Sept 17, 2014 18:24:28 GMT -5
yeah knew that. I was originally going to bore the 400 40 over any way but not now that its cracked.
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Post by Xtremejr on Sept 17, 2014 18:31:31 GMT -5
O.K. I said I was out of this, BUT, this is a whole different deal. That block on craigslist is missing a main cap ! Your aware I`m sure, you just can`t go stickin any ol main cap on there and call it a day !! Talk to your machinist, see if he`s equipped to line bore/hone an orphan cap to a block. Not cheap. Now I`m done I told the guy with the 400 in PA. that you can't just bolt a main cap from another motor and he told me I don't know what I'm talking about so I'm backing away from that deal, plus it would cost me a small fortune to ship that to milwaukee WI.
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Post by 64b09 on Sept 17, 2014 19:27:53 GMT -5
If you don't find something before then, Jefferson is coming at the end of the month.
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Post by mongoose on Sept 17, 2014 19:48:34 GMT -5
And using Fastenal's shipping service is a great way to ship large, heavy items at a reasonable cost. Check out posts on the subject in the "Vendors" section of our forum.
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