'65 442 vs. '65 GTO

Lost interest in the video the minute the host showed his ignorance on the origins of the "442" name. Obviously didn't have real knowledge or know how to do real research. Did anyone doubt the GTO was going to be their winner from the onset? On the street, the base GTO never measured up to the base 442. We took a lot of their money in the old days! .It is a shame they bring more money today though at auction

John, My recollection from 65, 66 when my first 442 was new was that a four barrel goat was not as fast, but a Tri-power with big gears, 3:90, or 4:10 would beat me. There was a guy from Jersey City that used to come over the bridge with his Tri-power goat that we just couldn't beat. My Holiday coupe with an M-21, and 3:55's on Pirelli Radials, at about 3500 RPM was a hole shot monster. I think it was the big sway bars that made the difference. My buddy's stock goat just couldn't launch like that, ever. Lots of wheel spin. It was easy to get races too, because the GTO guys were always cocky. and didn't know the 442 was a torque monster. But, the best thing about the 442 was that there wasn't a patrol car in the city of New York that had the horsepower to catch us when we ran from them. In those days, the law said they had to catch you at the time of the offense, to identify the driver. They couldn't mail you a ticket. We used to say they only had "quarter mile jurisdiction"! Today, you'd be in prison for what we got away with.

BR you recopied my post and then edited out the part of racing my car in 1969 when I could not afford to break parts.  Now I can so you can take your "P" back.  BTW, did I do something to offend you or am I misreading your responses?  
John

John, we were really lucky. The Olds dealer in Staten Island, where I grew up, really wanted the 442's to be raced to pump sales. I remember that if we broke something drag racing`, we brought them the part and they replaced it for free. I used to go through the Z bars on the clutch linkage at the rate of one every two or three months. I asked how they covered it, and the manager just said "a lot of parts on new cars were,"defective on delivery"! The only thing they didn't cover was when I twisted the splines off the tailshaft on the M-21. That's how much bite that car had. The car was two years old, that was on me. I guess that's why the later tranny's went to more splines on the shaft.

My buddy and I like to show our cars at shows together as much as possible. With his 3 deuces under the hood in the GTO and mine with the dual quads it makes for a lot of interesting conversations.

so,who's is faster?

How much trouble could he be having with that center carb? It's only a 2 barrel. Tell him to take 10 minutes, pull it off and have it rebuilt. There's not much to them. Be sure to upgrade to the new accelerator pump piston that is ethanol friendly and a new ball valve and float.

The accelerator pump well is probably rough from the ethanol and should be honed or polished. Always run a stabilizer in the fuel. I've had good luck with Lucas

can you give the exact details of the fuel stabilizer you used?