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Post by mongoose on Jan 5, 2012 21:30:17 GMT -5
How does the tail panel emblem attach to the tail panel? The chrome shop removed the emblem when they re-chromed it, and I don't remember how it was secured to the panel.
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Post by RAM Z on Jan 5, 2012 21:40:04 GMT -5
The "Cutlass" emblem? I think it either had speed nuts or those weird, square press on retainers.
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Post by mongoose on Jan 5, 2012 21:51:02 GMT -5
Yea the Cutlass emblem. The pins in the emblem do not protrude through the tail panel, so there is no screw on nut. And the pin is smaller than the holes in the tail panel, so it not just mushroomed. There must be some sort of an insert to wedge the pins in place.
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Post by oldsproject on Jan 5, 2012 22:15:24 GMT -5
Its not a screw on and it was mushroomed but more like a pop rivet. Can post pictures in the am.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2012 22:24:17 GMT -5
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Post by mongoose on Jan 6, 2012 6:12:17 GMT -5
Looking at the images in the link... do you push the barrel nut through from the back of the tail panel, so the flange of the nut rests in the minor recess of mounting holes, and then pins of the emblem just press-fit into the nut?
Are the nuts nylon, plastic, sheet metal, stainless?
Not sure what industrial supply I have around here that will carry these. We have a Fastenal, but when searching for "barrel nut" it leads me to a "binding post barrel", and associated "finish steel connectors"... which don't look like the images in postcar's link.
Could another alternative for attaching the emblem be soldering? I doubt it... seems like it would be impossible for the solder to not leak through to the front of the panel as you try to fill the void between the emblem pin and the tail panel mounting holes.
Silicone? Nah....
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Post by familyrides1965 on Jan 6, 2012 7:55:42 GMT -5
how about a dab of JB weld on each stud push through the panel, and place a weight on the cutlass emblem let dry a day or so and see if the emblem is tight. I did this to repair a broken pin on a dealer installed metal dealer plate that was stuck to a tail panel. That was 20-years ago, and still on there. I'm just careful when I wash the car. I would consider this a simple fix, but think the barrel nuts are the way to go if you are concerned about the emblem becoming loose over time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2012 9:54:51 GMT -5
Looking at the images in the link... do you push the barrel nut through from the back of the tail panel, so the flange of the nut rests in the minor recess of mounting holes, and then pins of the emblem just press-fit into the nut? Are the nuts nylon, plastic, sheet metal, stainless? Not sure what industrial supply I have around here that will carry these. We have a Fastenal, but when searching for "barrel nut" it leads me to a "binding post barrel", and associated "finish steel connectors"... which don't look like the images in postcar's link. Could another alternative for attaching the emblem be soldering? I doubt it... seems like it would be impossible for the solder to not leak through to the front of the panel as you try to fill the void between the emblem pin and the tail panel mounting holes. Silicone? Nah.... First, I want to be clear that I`m not saying barrel nuts were used originally. I only offer it as a common alternative. Barrel nuts are a common fastener used by body shops, there available at most parts houses, car quest (locally) has a large selection. If I were you, my first stop would be to the body shop that did your work, they`ll know the best method. The RTV/ jb weld method will work, I would prefer RTV myself over the jb weld, simply because the silicone is somewhat flexible. I`ve used silicone several times with great success. If you do go the rtv route keep in mind, CLEAN ! If you go barrel nut, squeeze a dab of rtv in the barrel nut before installing the trim. (water-tight, xtra security) Barrel nuts come in several materials, there inserted with the flange portion out, this way you won`t push it thru when installing the trim.
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Post by RAM Z on Jan 6, 2012 10:49:07 GMT -5
Id use a two part epoxy, like the PC-7 I used on my steering wheel. Install the emblem, epoxy over the studs on the backside real good, C clamp it on and wait.
I took apart my heater control face (held together the same way) and I epoxied it back together.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2012 11:14:24 GMT -5
This dilema peaked my interest so I went in the barn and looked at a few tail panels and a couple side scoops, ( i needed the exercise) These two items would have clearance issues pertaining to the studs protruding thru. In both cases the push on spring type retainers were used. It looks like the retainers were installed and then the stud length was trimmed in some manner. (pic below) THEN, I looked at another rear panel, it looks like the studs were somehow mushroomed over, pressed, if you will. In either case I doubt very much you`d be looking at an original re-installation. It looks like you`ve got several good methods to choose from. Good luck.
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Post by mongoose on Jan 6, 2012 18:36:19 GMT -5
Just completed the two-part epoxy approach. Worked great!
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Post by BR[] on Jan 6, 2012 19:43:09 GMT -5
silicone would have been fine too
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Post by Big Mike on Jan 6, 2012 22:45:25 GMT -5
How does the tail panel emblem attach to the tail panel? The chrome shop removed the emblem when they re-chromed it, and I don't remember how it was secured to the panel. Woah, woah, woah, forget about the darn emblem, let's see the rechromed panel. I don't know how many of us can never find someone to to the tail panels correctly, so what do ours look like?
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Post by stan65cutlass on Jan 7, 2012 11:12:20 GMT -5
id like to see a nice panel close up, theyre easy to hide in a pic from ten feet. i have three to choose the one that least looks like the back of a toad
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Post by oldsproject on Jan 7, 2012 11:16:38 GMT -5
Here's a picture of how the emblem was attached for what its worth
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Post by oldsproject on Jan 7, 2012 11:36:14 GMT -5
id like to see a nice panel close up, theyre easy to hide in a pic from ten feet. i have three to choose the one that least looks like the back of a toad This one isnt too bad . Also interested in what Mongoose has gotten done too.
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Post by stan65cutlass on Jan 7, 2012 12:23:02 GMT -5
looks great, i like how the texture came out
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Post by RAM Z on Jan 7, 2012 12:31:16 GMT -5
looks great, i like how the texture came out Im pretty sure Brian posted an original panel.
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Post by stan65cutlass on Jan 7, 2012 13:35:46 GMT -5
that could explain the texture looking so good
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Post by RAM Z on Jan 7, 2012 13:40:03 GMT -5
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