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Post by oldsproject on Nov 14, 2010 21:26:24 GMT -5
I know we've beat this one to death but which is the closest color? Last I recall, RAMZ was going to try the Fusick, any luck? Supercars doesn't look good on BR[]'s site but they tell you not to use an undercoat. Can't find the Rustoleum (Aged Copper - High Heat). Has anyone tried the VHT Burnt Copper engine paint? It actually looks pretty good in the store.
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Post by 442scotty on Nov 15, 2010 8:01:43 GMT -5
Quote "86t-type wrote: I tried the MAZDA code 9Y that i believe Steve(stick31) suggested. I have Three untouched original 400 motors here in the shop and this formula is dead on. Not to bash anybody here but i have tried four of the aftermarket co. paints including the ones mentioned and they are deffinitely not close.
Try the 9y you won't be disappointed
Yes thats correct, 1980 Mazda Y9 Radiant Copper Metallic Fusick is a correct also "
I did some searching on Real Olds Power some time ago and came up with the above info...I looked the paint chip up and it looks pretty close to the original paint that had been painted over on my low mile engine. I am planning on taking the motor out at some point to refresh it and I hope to verify the colors then. Hopefully next summer.
On his site BRO mentions a copper color, which is really a Ford copper by code, and I tried it on a 455 in my Cutlass...came out quite nice and looks like the VHT stuff and Rustoleum stuff.
It would be nice if someone had some old color pics of an original engine.
On another note, RAMZ has a picture of a NOS head that is kind of red/copper looking. Some say it is the correct color and some say not. I have to say that it looks a lot like what is hiding under my repainted engine.
BRO...the ball is in your court...
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Post by BR[] on Nov 15, 2010 20:44:05 GMT -5
Fusicks color is not even in the ballpark! I've seen the copper color on a lot of 66-67's, but the actual color is closer to Bill Hirsh's
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Post by oldsproject on Nov 15, 2010 21:36:12 GMT -5
Fusicks color is not even in the ballpark! I've seen the copper color on a lot of 66-67's, but the actual color is closer to Bill Hirsh's Thanks BR[] and Scotty. I took some pieces down to get hot tank and bead blasted today. Here's the water neck off a 65 400. Cleaned it up for a good view. Looks like Fusick to me
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Post by BR[] on Nov 15, 2010 22:09:53 GMT -5
ARE YOU SURE IT HAS NEVER BEEN PAINTED?
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Post by oldsproject on Nov 15, 2010 22:31:12 GMT -5
ARE YOU SURE IT HAS NEVER BEEN PAINTED? Don't know the history or a lot about the motor so always possible. Bought it from Chuckie. Can tell you that it looks pretty much original though. Has the original valve train, pistons, distributor, balancer, etc. Is there any irrefutable evidence of what the color should be? This is the best indication I have. Besides, the original engines probably looked psychedelic to you back in the day given everything you were into back then
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Post by 442scotty on Nov 15, 2010 22:54:23 GMT -5
It does look like Fusick doesnt it...is the color thats further up the neck a little darker? the area that had been covered by the upper rad hose? I would say that the darker color is the original color perhaps...
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Post by BR[] on Nov 15, 2010 22:59:29 GMT -5
WHAT?
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Post by BR[] on Nov 15, 2010 23:03:27 GMT -5
I would say your wrong........ the original color was a lighter milkier bronze I have an engine that has never been repainted and has all of it's paint, but if I show you a picture then we can't have all this fun.
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Post by oldsproject on Nov 15, 2010 23:31:10 GMT -5
I would say your wrong........ the original color was a lighter milkier bronze I have an engine that has never been repainted and has all of it's paint, but if I show you a picture then we can't have all this fun. Come on...... show me the money!
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Post by 442scotty on Nov 16, 2010 17:27:50 GMT -5
You have our attention now!...Like a pack of hungry dogs looking at a steak!
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Post by familyrides1965 on Nov 16, 2010 20:38:30 GMT -5
I have an unpainted engine as well with all its original paint...For what it's worth the picture of the water pump inlet looks correct.
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Post by oldsproject on Nov 16, 2010 21:57:06 GMT -5
I have an unpainted engine as well with all its original paint...For what it's worth the picture of the water pump inlet looks correct. Can you post a picture?
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Post by BR[] on Nov 17, 2010 11:35:54 GMT -5
This pic is from a 29,000 mile Fremont car, which to me is lighter than my original Lansing car. I truly think the big issue is that this was engine paint and they didn't worry that much about exact match. They most likely used paint bases that they had on hand.
What I suggest is that we (meaning the illustrious members of this site) settle on one color and since there are no self proclaimed gurus coming forward with the correct color, declare it to be the one. end of story!
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Post by oldsproject on Nov 17, 2010 12:06:40 GMT -5
This pic is from a 29,000 mile Fremont car, which to mee is lighter than my original Lansing car. I truly think the big issue is that this was engine paint and they didn't worry that much about exact match. They most likely used paint bases that they had on hand. What I suggest is that we (meaning the illustrious members of this site) settle on one color and since there are no self proclaimed gurus coming forward with the correct color, declare it to be the one. end of story! I second that motion and will jump out in the lead. I pretty sure this is as close to original as we'll ever get ultra-hi-comp.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=downloadattachmentpage&board=general&thread=1594&post=11901
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Post by RAM Z on Nov 17, 2010 13:15:05 GMT -5
That fremont car is too brown for my taste. I do agree that the color wasnt that important back then. They probably mixed it up from left over gold paint for all we know.
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Post by 442scotty on Nov 17, 2010 16:18:17 GMT -5
I agree...and if Family Rides posts a picture it will probably be close to this anyway
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Post by familyrides1965 on Nov 17, 2010 21:45:21 GMT -5
Best pictures I have handy for now...kind of dirty I know...but is a stock motor with original paint
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2010 11:36:10 GMT -5
while we are whipping the dead horse... plastikote fm8069 "chestnut" it might not be 100% original, but i like the color and its close enough to look factory. i want the local shop to scan it and mix me up some high temp in a rattle can.
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Post by BR[] on Nov 18, 2010 12:28:07 GMT -5
I have never used high temp paint and have never had any problems. The tri-carb manifold was painted with high temp epoxy primer and then painted with the normal dupli-color rattle can. NO PROBLEMS! Hasn't burned off in 5 years. Didn't even change color.
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